AW: One of my favourite Bobby memories was the clearance off the line at Hillsborough. What a night.
BH: It was pure instinct. Without being big headed, I think that has always been one of my strengths - my reading of situations, my positioning. As the keeper closed down Tudgay, I ran straight back to the goal line and yes, did my job. 'One Bobby Hassell' was sung afterwards, which was nice.
BH: That's the song I'll be remembered for probably. I guess it's a privilege really. There's not many songs over the last ten years about players that have lasted so long. My son's older now but my family used to cover his ears subtly whenever it was sung. As he got older though he knew there was something in there and so we changed the words to satisfy his need to know. Unfortunately, he googled 'Bobby Hassell song' and came out with the words!
AW: Good lad. Will we ever hear it again, but sung in his honour? He's a good young player himself isn't he?
BH: He was exceptional at 6/7 years old. I used to constantly teach him the technical side, but kids get lazier as they grow up and you constantly end up trying to enthuse them. As a father, I just want him to be happy with whatever he chooses to do.
AW: Talk to me about God. Well, not really, but tell me how you found your faith.
BH: I became 'reborn' on the 12th November 2009 in box ten of the East Stand! I'd attended bible study alongside other players with club chaplain Peter Amos and decided I wanted to make that commitment. All I'll say is, that it was the best decision of my life. My testimony is available to read online somewhere. I could speak about this all day! My passion is Jesus, and God willing, Bruce (Bruce, Bruce Dyer) and I will one day have our own church here in Barnsley.
AW: Each to their own, pal. I'm not going to knock others for what they believe in. If everyone had the same appreciation for others' faith, world'd be better. Or summat.
Anyway, now you've left, what are your plans? You're well loved here and an ambassador for our town.
BH: I don't want this taken the wrong way, but whenever I've gone into the community, it's never been for the football club. I don't go as Bobby Hassell, footballer. I go as Bobby Hassell. I've a passion to help people in our community and serve as a good role model for future generations. I'm not naive. I've been invited into peoples homes and to events because I am Bobby Hassell the footballer, but I've tried to use that in a positive way, to give back somehow. If I'm an ambassador for anyone, it's for Jesus Christ and I will always represent the town in any way I can.
AW: What was it like playing at Wembley?
BH: Fantastic. It's something you don't think will happen if you're not a top flight player. I've played at the Millennium Stadium twice too so it could have been three Wembley appearances.
AW: Could have been four if Kayode hadn't fluffed his lines, bless him.
Tell us summat random about Bobby Hassell...
BH: Ok... I was once approached in Derby city centre after a night out by a boxing trainer. He was well known and wanted me to join his ranks. I'm embarrassed to say he had spotted my 'talents' by witnessing me knock out a handful of people outside a nightclub. He said I was a natural. But once I'd sobered up the next day I was embarrassed by my actions.
AW: Haha. Legend. Wish you'd approached a few down Oakwell in that manner the last couple of years..
Mark Robins - what the chuff happened there? That came from nowhere. Bit like my questions today.
BH: I had four or five conversations with Mark in the days leading up to it, and he was adamant that he was going to remain here and stick it out. He then resigned! He did give me the courtesy of a phone call though and apologised, but he had his reasons for making the decision he did.
AW: He's not long since done it again at Huddersfield. Strange. Seemed a good bloke, decent enough manager too.
BH: I loved playing for him, I think I played some of my best football under him actually.
AW: Who were the best footballers that you played with whilst at BFC?
BH: I'd say John Stones, Stephen McPhail, Jason Shackell, Anderson da silva and Heinz Muller would be in my top five. On football terms.
AW: No Butterfield? You've disappointed me, Bob.
BH: Jacob's a very talented player..
AW: Too late, mate.
BH: Haha.
AW: But seriously, Stonesy's taking the mickey int he? England laiker and't lot already. And a top lad to boot.
BH: I knew from the moment I saw him at 15 he'd be going to the top. I think he'll prove to be one of the best centre halves the club has produced. He's very much in the mould of Rio Ferdinand. He's a fantastic player, and more importantly, a very grounded and humble lad. Got his head screwed on. A top guy.
AW: Who were your best pals at the club?
BH: Martin Devaney, Rob Kozluk, Darren Moore, Stephen Foster and Paul Hayes. I'm still in regular contact with them all.
AW: Nice to see you name em all as the best players you played with too....
BH: Haha.
AW: Were there any players you didn't get on with?
BH: Back in my 'fighting' days, Chris Shuker. We'd made up by the time he left though.
AW: I model my forehead on Shuker's. But regards former players, who do you expect to see at your testimonial game next summer?
BH: There's too many to name really. It's something I'll have to go through carefully over the next few months. It'd be nice if I could get a feeling from supporters about who they'd like to see involved.
AW: Mido would be hilarious. So, what's the crack with the testimonial? It was happening this year, then got postponed. Why?
BH: Many reasons. Too long a list to go through actually. Darren Hayes (committee leader) tried allsorts and was promised things on numerous occasions only to be let down at the last minute. The club informed us they were unable to assist us in any testimonial events for tax reasons so we've had to plough on through ourselves and just hit various hurdles.
AW: I'm pretty sure the lads here at WSB will be happy to help where possible.
BH: That's appreciated. I just hope I won't be forgotten and everyone can make it because I don't feel I was ever afforded a proper opportunity to say goodbye to the likes of yourself, the thousands of fans who've supported me over the last ten years.
AW: Can't make it, mate. Washing the bit of my head where my hair once resided.
BH: Bit?
AW: Ha! I'm sure it'll be a cracking day for you and for us. Be even better if we're promoted too. Double celebration.
AW: I'm going to get into the nitty gritty stuff now. Starting with 'Hillcroft'. Despite neither them or you admitting owt publicly, you didn't get on did you?
BH: Hand on heart, Andy, I had no problem with them. But it became increasingly obvious that they took issue with me. That was evident on the training field, in interviews they conducted and the amount of times I was summoned to their office. I couldn't tell you what their issues were, you'd have to ask them. But what I do know, is that I can look at myself in the mirror with a clear conscience with regards to how I conducted myself at the football club throughout my whole time there. And, I'm happy they're both at clubs and doing well because I think they're both very talented managers in their own ways. I found their training style exceptional to be fair.
AW: You're just too nice, mate.
Rochdale away. Your Gordon Banks impression. What a day. It seems strange that the only two blokes not to come onto the pitch to congratulate you after your heroics in goal, were Hillcroft...
BH: If I'm honest, I never really noticed that. The funny thing for me was that the day before, Keith had told an agent I know that he didn't want me here, to get a club to take me. It was ironic then, that I ended up coming on and played a part in that victory, and especially so against his old club!
AW: You saw John Stones score at Rochdale...
Fast forward a few months and I couldn't believe it when Flicker stayed behind after Keith got the sack. Did it surprise you?
BH: In a way yes. They were that close I expected him to follow Keith out of loyalty. But he must have had his reasons for staying, and it worked out for the good of the club in the end. Well, for that season at least.
AW: Did you ever hear that interview Flicker gave Radio Deedar where he got monk on when the reporter mentioned your name?
BH: I did listen, after being told about it by every Tom, Dick and Harry. I was disappointed. It was so obvious wasn't it? Not that it was the first time I'd been disrespected. I think that's what hindered me though, my name being constantly spoken of. I felt like a political pawn at times. One manager told me "all these questions in the media, the fans singing for you to play, it's killing you". Unfortunately, I had little control over either.
AW: I'm guilty then of that. I just wanted our best players playing. Think the manager preferred his best mates playing.
Getting that header though, the winner against Watford. Bet that was unreal.
BH: It was funny. I came on at right back, where I'd been told I couldn't play anymore. It was actually my last game at fullback. I was informed that I'd be unable to play there anymore due to my age. I replaced a lad three years older than me that day..
One of their smaller lads was marking me at set plays etc, and I told him that if it went anywhere near me I was scoring. So when I did, it felt immense and some people probably had to eat humble pie that evening.
AW: "His legs have gone" "He's too old" "He's injury prone" are the sort of things I read/heard about you over the last couple of years. It's b****** isn't it?
BH: Of course. I think from coming into the team after months sidelined has shown my legs hadn't gone and I'm still fit. The problem at any age is coming in like that is extremely hard then for you to perform, but I think I always did that. You then get little niggles and that's purely down to a lack of match fitness. I went down with cramp at Leeds for example. I'd not started a match for six months! But then I started again against Bolton a few days later. I wasn't subbed off due to injury though as suggested. I was picked to start against Birmingham in fact but was injured in training the day before. But when I regained fitness I just couldn't get a look in regardless of how the team was performing.
AW: You were immense at Leeds in Danny's return. One of the best 45 minutes I've seen from any player in my 26 years as a red. I expected you to be a fixture in his side. So what went wrong there?
BH: I wish I knew. I've no idea to this day. That's football though. Things change from day to day. I was very disappointed though, don't get me wrong, but football doesn't dictate my happiness. So many players' moods are though, and it's very dangerous. It's no wonder some lads struggle after hanging up their boots.
AW: It seems we had some bad apples at the club last season. We certainly had bad players. I mean, what the f*** was Brek Shea?
BH: It would be wrong of me to comment on players' characters or personalities. But I do know there were a lot of lies told about me. One of my best mates in football came through the door which was a blessing, as I got to know what was being said behind my back! And the good thing about that, was that I know how much I've changed. The person Liam (Lawrence) knew ten years ago would have reacted a lot differently to how I did this time around. It's a shame that some felt envious towards me due to my popularity with the people of the town. But it's helpful and imperative to appreciate that this is a relationship built up over ten years. Not overnight.
AW: I was lucky enough (cheers pal) to be sat with your missus and kids the day we stopped up at Huddersfield. You had the misfortune of being sat with my good mate Matt Bailey. What was that day like, the dressing room etc?
BH: As you can imagine, it was like we'd won the league. I suppose I'm old school when it comes to this, a bit like Roy Keane. As much as we'd stayed up against the odds, I still felt a bit like we were celebrating failure. Maybe that's my age though, and the fact I'd been in this division for so long? I didn't feel we should have been scrapping down their at the bottom again.
AW: The contract offer in the summer of 2013 - what was that all about? I hear you were offered a massive reduction in salary, something you eventually accepted. Others believe Flicker didn't even want you here full stop. What happened really?
BH: All of that is true. I've no need to elaborate.
AW: You've had offers to leave BFC in the past, tell us more.
BH: In my ten years here, I've had a few. Cardiff approached me after promotion. Hull and Stoke, who were promoted to the Premier League a couple of years later. Wednesday came in for me under Simon Davey, that was never happening. Nor was Leeds when they approached me regards joining at the end of the season, think it was four, five years back now. But I was offered an extension in March I think by Mark and obviously I signed up.
Most recently, was a loan deal to Sheffield United when Keith was still here. Unfortunately, that was for some reason blocked. I was informed that I'd be allowed to join Scunthorpe though.. which I declined.
AW: Do you now wish you had left at any time?
BH: In hindsight and from a purely footballing perspective, yes! But from a spiritual perspective? Absolutely not. I think the relations and doors that have been opened to me in the town have shown I'm meant to be here. For the time being at least.
AW: How do you think we're doing so far this season, Barnsley, and will you get to games?
BH: When I do come to Oakwell, I'm with my friends. Phil Rouse, Kev Beckett etc. I've also been with the family. In terms of BFC this season, it's a transitional period. Danny knows that division more than most though and he knows what it takes to compete down there.
AW: What are your thoughts on forums/message boards, twitter etc?
BH: Potentially dangerous. If used in the wrong manner they can degenerate into a tool for breeding hatred. Social media ensures that players and managers are given less time in my opinion to produce the goods, as I do know for a fact that those involved in the decision making at clubs do read them.
AW: Who was your favourite manager?
BH: Andy Ritchie.
AW: Would you ever risk your status here by returning to manage the club one day?
BH: As we speak now, no. Once I retire, and the memories of the last couple of years fade, then who knows? Never rule anything out in life. I'll forever love this football club but I wasn't wanted as a player or coach just a few months ago, so perhaps I'll never be wanted back anyway?!
AW: As a big fundraiser yourself who commits a lot of time to good causes, what are your thoughts on WSB and it's efforts thus far to help out the community?
BH: It's excellent. Anything that's in place primarily to help out its community can only be commended.
AW: What do the club think of WSB? We get the feeling that those in charge aren't reight keen, despite their claims to the contrary...?
BH: You'd have to ask them directly, but it's my opinion that the club should respect its fanbase.
AW: Exactly. We're providing a service. By the fans for the fans. And all profits are going back into the community. Well, back into the tills in the many pubs Dyson and Gaz visit... in the community. Ahem.
Do you have a message for the readers of WSB and the BFC fans in general?
BH: Thank you for what has been an amazing ten years. It's been the best part of my life. On and off the pitch. It's been a unique relationship I've had with you all. And I reckon I've been part of a relatively successful period at the club on the whole. We had a promotion, staying up against the odds (until last season), a Wembley visit after beating Liverpool and Chelsea. It's been joyous.
I've made friends for life, I became a Christian, two of my four children were born here. It's almost as though the club has gone full circle in my time here. It was in League One when I arrived, I just hope that Danny and the new lads can give you some happy times again, and hopefully get the club back into the Championship.
AW: And finally, what's your plans going forward, in terms of laiking/coaching/whatever?
BH: Well, I turned down a couple of clubs early in the summer. They were too far away and it'd have meant moving away. In June, I'd agreed to sign for a club in League One. The contract was agreed, but on the day of the manager returning from holiday and with me due to meet him to seal the deal, he told my friend who was dealing with the contract that he's spoken to an ex manager of mine and that he no longer wished to sign me. I didn't question the decision. There's no point. A good friend of mine, John Dennis had already warned me this could happen.
I then accepted an invitation to train with Bradford City. I went there for a month to prove I was fit and what not, and I really enjoyed it. But although I was told that I was doing well and that my fitness was good, I was later told that I wasn't going to get a deal and the manager cited financial reasons for it. But I do feel Steve Parkin was behind me being recruited really. It's a shame as I enjoyed it there, great group of lads and obviously ideal in terms of location.
I've had other options since, in League Two and the Conference but you're talking 2 hour drives there, 2 hours back. I didn't feel I'd enjoy it and the travelling is a lot harder as you get older.
In the background throughout was this Indian deal simmering. I was waiting to see if a close friend of mine would get the managers job at this particular club. He was successful and so asked if I'd assist him as well as going out there to play for him. We'd be building a club from scratch pretty much, so what better way to learn? It's owned by a billionaire company with ambitious ideas. It's too good an opportunity to let pass by. I can obviously see the irony in me turning down clubs just a few hours away yet now I'm potentially leaving the country! But it's the coaching side, building something that excites me. Had it just been a playing deal I'd not have been as keen.
AW: All the best with that, pal. Bit of an adventure for you. Thought you'd have been put off them after your time under Flicker...
I wish you and your family all the best in whatever you do next and in the future, and I look forward to the testimonial on May 4 next year. Thanks, Bobby. The love of my life....
Bobby has since signed for Bharat FC in the Indian League. Their season begins in January, and I'm sure we'll all be wishing him well over there.
Thanks for reading.
Whitey
'Love Barnsley, Hate Football'
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